Why Did Erudite Betray Abnegation In Divergent?

2025-09-11 14:30:49 233

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Zeke
Zeke
2025-09-15 01:57:36
As a bookworm who analyzed this trilogy twice, I think Erudite's betrayal stems from humanity's oldest flaw: fear of the unknown. Abnegation's leadership represented stability, but their transparency threatened Erudite's control. Remember how they hoarded information? Knowledge was their weapon, and Divergents (often from Abnegation) were immune to it. That's why Jeanine targeted both—eliminating threats to her vision of a 'predictable' world.

The serum-controlled Dauntless attack wasn't just violence; it was Erudite's twisted experiment in removing variables. Chilling stuff! What gets me is how even smart people can rationalize atrocities when they feel entitled to 'fix' society.
Paisley
Paisley
2025-09-16 12:31:09
Ever notice how Erudite's labs look like sterile corporate offices? That's the vibe—cold efficiency clashing with Abnegation's communal kitchens. Their betrayal wasn't spontaneous; it brewed for years. Petty grievances (like funding cuts for Erudite research) snowballed into dehumanization. They painted Abnegation as hypocrites ('hidden selfishness') to justify takeover.

Funny how the 'knowledge' faction ignored the truth: Abnegation's leaders were divergents precisely because they balanced logic with compassion. Jeanine couldn't comprehend that, so she labeled it a defect. Her downfall? Underestimating human complexity—Tris proved her wrong.
Zoe
Zoe
2025-09-17 09:48:45
Man, the Erudite-Abnegation conflict in 'Divergent' still gives me chills! At first glance, it seems like a simple power grab, but digging deeper reveals layers of ideological warfare. Erudite's leadership saw Abnegation's selfless governance as inefficient and emotionally driven—they believed logic and knowledge should dictate society's direction. Jeanine Matthews' obsession with 'perfect order' twisted this into justification for eradicating divergence (and Abnegation) entirely.

What really fascinates me is how Roth mirrors real-world tensions between intellectual elitism and altruism. The Erudite used propaganda (like framing Abnegation for data theft) to manipulate other factions—Dauntless became their unwitting army. It's not just betrayal; it's a calculated dismantling of values they deemed 'weak.' The scary part? Their rhetoric about 'progress' almost makes sense until you see the brutality underneath.
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