Can 'Both His Son For Pleasure' Be Found In Classic Literature?

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Claire
Claire
2026-05-11 04:10:22
Huh, that phrasing feels like it’s dangling halfway between a biblical parable and a pulp novel. I’ve spent years nerding out over 19th-century literature, and I can’t recall a single title where a father explicitly takes 'both his son for pleasure.' It’s giving me 'Sadean excess meets Dickensian inheritance drama' vibes, but even the raciest classics—think 'Fanny Hill' or 'Les Liaisons Dangereuses'—keep things more coded. Could it be from mythology? Greek tragedies love messed-up family dynamics (looking at you, 'Oedipus Rex'), but the wording’s too clunky for Homer or Euripides.

Honestly, it might be a garbled reference to something like 'Teleny', that anonymous Victorian gay erotic novel rumored to involve Oscar Wilde. Or a misremembered line from 'Venus in Furs' where power and desire blur. If it’s real, it’s probably hiding in some fringe text scholars only whisper about at midnight conferences. Either way, the search itself is half the fun—like literary detective work with a side of raised eyebrows.
Felix
Felix
2026-05-14 02:01:31
The phrase 'both his son for pleasure' sounds oddly specific and archaic, like something ripped from an 18th-century morality tale or a convoluted family saga. I’ve dug through my shelves of classics—'Wuthering Heights', 'The Brothers Karamazov', even 'Tom Jones'—and nothing quite matches that wording. Maybe it’s a misquote? It vaguely reminds me of Shakespearean wordplay, like 'Measure for Measure', where desire and lineage get tangled. Or perhaps it’s from some obscure Gothic novel where forbidden relationships lurk in dusty parlors. If it exists, it’s buried deep in footnotes, not front-and-center in mainstream classics.

That said, themes of paternal indulgence or twisted familial bonds do pop up. 'King Lear' comes to mind—Gloucester’s blind favoritism toward Edmund has a similar vibe, though less about 'pleasure' and more about power. Or maybe 'The Picture of Dorian Gray', where Lord Henry’s influence on Dorian could be read as a warped mentorship. But verbatim? Nah. Feels like a red herring or a mistranslation from French decadent lit. Still, now I’m curious—time to raid the public domain for weird Victorian erotica.
Yara
Yara
2026-05-14 06:21:57
That phrase rings zero bells for me, and I’ve lost weekends to digging through Penguin Classics. It doesn’t sound like anything from Austen, the Brontës, or even racier stuff like 'Lady Chatterley’s Lover'. Maybe it’s from a lesser-known Jacobean play? Those love to mix blood and lust in unsettling ways—'Tis Pity She’s a Whore' has siblings, not sons, but same energy. Or could it be a folk tale? Some Grimm stories get dark, though usually with stepfamilies. Feels like a stretch. My guess: someone misheard or invented it for shock value. Still, now I want to find a book that does fit—time to annoy my local librarian.
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