What Grimdark Books Are Best For Readers Of Joe Abercrombie?

2025-09-03 15:57:44 63

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Ruby
Ruby
2025-09-04 01:03:07
I still find myself thinking about how different grimdark authors handle cruelty and regret, and that helps me recommend reads to folks coming off 'The First Law'. If you liked the dark humor and character-driven brutality, 'The Broken Empire' offers a protagonist who’s unapologetically monstrous yet oddly sympathetic; it’s compact and vicious. For something that leans into philosophical horror and theological scheming, 'The Prince of Nothing' gives you a world where ideas are weapons and every choice reverberates in ugly ways.

On the other hand, when nostalgia for older, rawer fantasy hits, 'The Black Company' reads like a dirty mirror—soldiers telling bleak stories around a fire, loyalties bought and sold. For modern, grim political upheaval mixed with gut punches, 'The Poppy War' doesn’t spare anyone and its historical inspirations add an extra sting. If you want variety, try pairing a tight, character-heavy book with a sprawling epic: it softens the blow while keeping the thrill of moral complexity alive.
Zane
Zane
2025-09-04 19:15:20
If I had to give a quick stack for someone finishing 'The First Law', I’d say: 'The Broken Empire' (Mark Lawrence) for that sharp, misanthropic protagonist energy; 'The Black Company' (Glen Cook) for gritty, veteran camaraderie; 'The Prince of Nothing' (R. Scott Bakker) if you want darker, more cerebral politics; and 'The Poppy War' (R. F. Kuang) for brutal, heartbreaking escalation.

Each of these shares with Abercrombie a love of morally messy people, bleak humor, and consequences that don’t get neatly wrapped. If you like snappy, cutting dialogue and scuzzy tavern scenes, start with Lawrence. If you want sprawling, harsh epics that make you question morality and fate, dive into Bakker or Kuang. Also, don’t be surprised if you have to take a break between books — grimdark can be emotionally exhausting but wildly rewarding.
Maya
Maya
2025-09-06 00:34:36
My short-list for someone craving more of the grim, sharp stuff that made 'The First Law' addictive: 'The Broken Empire' by Mark Lawrence, 'The Prince of Nothing' by R. Scott Bakker, 'The Black Company' by Glen Cook, and 'The Poppy War' by R. F. Kuang. I tend to recommend starting small with Lawrence if you want pace and attitude, then moving to Bakker or Kuang when you’re ready for dense plotting and harder themes.

Also, if you like flintlock-style grit mixed with political scheming, try 'The Powder Mage' series by Brian McClellan — it’s a bit lighter in tone but still satisfyingly nasty when it needs to be. Pick based on whether you want philosophy, battlefield grit, or tragic escalation, and you’ll likely find a new favorite.
Uma
Uma
2025-09-08 07:46:49
Okay, if you loved the grim wit and ugly honesty of 'The First Law' then you’ll probably like books that mix moral rot with sharp dialogue and characters who make awful choices for understandable reasons.

Start with 'The Broken Empire' by Mark Lawrence — brutal, fast, and drenched in nihilism. Jorg is as unpleasant and magnetic as any of Abercrombie’s cast, and the books are relentless in exploring what power does to a damaged mind. If you want something with more philosophical heft and a massive, intricate plot, try 'The Prince of Nothing' by R. Scott Bakker; it’s dense, bleak, and rewards patience with deep worldbuilding and grim religious politics.

For a leaner, soldier’s-eye view of grimdark, pick up 'The Black Company' by Glen Cook. It’s older, rougher around the edges, and the camaraderie-in-squalor vibe pairs well with Abercrombie’s battlefield scenes. If you prefer more modern grind and tragedy with a military edge, 'The Poppy War' by R. F. Kuang blends historical cruelty, addiction to power, and harrowing consequence. My tip: choose the one that scratches your itch—philosophy, military grit, or antihero obsession—and you’ll be happily ruined for a while.
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4 Answers2025-09-03 19:39:07
Oh man, if you like grimdark with a heavy dose of politics and full-scale war, my go-to rec is always 'A Song of Ice and Fire' — it’s the textbook of palace plotting colliding with battlefield horror. The nobles play a long, poisonous game while whole regions burn and conscripts die in mud; every chapter feels like someone drawing back a curtain to reveal another betrayal. If you want the royal backstabbing plus slow, painful consequences, this is the slow-burn staple. For a bleaker, more philosophical take, dive into 'The Prince of Nothing' series. It's grim in a cerebral, unsettling way: theology, manipulative philosophers, and campaigns that feel like they’re grinding both bodies and minds. If you prefer razor-sharp dialogue and cynical humor mixed with mopping-up violence, Joe Abercrombie’s 'The First Law' trilogy and linked novels — especially 'The Blade Itself' and 'The Heroes' — are perfect. For brutal military camaraderie, pick up 'The Black Company'. For something raw and modern, 'The Poppy War' blends wartime atrocities with political maneuvering. If you want a roadmap: start with Abercrombie for punchy prose, Martin for sprawling scheming, Bakker for brainy bleakness, and Bakker-adjacent reads like 'The Mirror Empire' or 'The Traitor Baru Cormorant' for political operas where statecraft itself is a battlefield. Honestly, I flip between these when I need fiction that’s both ruthless and smart — it keeps me turning pages and then staring into the void for a bit.
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