Did Achilles And Patroclus Have A Funeral?

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Jade
Jade
2025-09-09 03:17:45
Oh man, talking about this makes me want to revisit Madeline Miller's 'The Song of Achilles'—she paints their funerals so vividly! Historically, yes, Patroclus gets a full Homeric funeral with games and sacrifices (Achilles goes full drama mode), but Achilles' burial is more fragmented in the myths. Some versions say Thetis whisked his body away to the White Isle for immortality, while others describe a shared tomb. The ambiguity feels intentional, like the poets couldn't decide whether to separate them even in death. I love how later art and pottery often show them side by side, though—it's like fanservice for ancient Greeks who shipped them.
Theo
Theo
2025-09-09 04:11:38
Their funerals are peak tragedy—Patroclus gets this raw, emotional send-off where Achilles is a mess, while Achilles' own feels like an epilogue. The mingled ashes thing? Ultimate 'bury your gays' trope, but also weirdly beautiful. Makes me wish we had more surviving texts about their post-'Iliad' cult worship—apparently some cities venerated them together as heroes.
Bennett
Bennett
2025-09-10 07:09:57
As someone who nerds out over archaeological takes, the funeral question is fascinating because it blends myth and ritual. Patroclus' pyre in Book 23 of 'The Iliad' mirrors real Mycenaean customs—hair offerings, animal sacrifices—but the scale is mythic. Achilles' absence from his own funeral in the original text might hint at his semi-divine status; Thetis could've given him a private godly send-off. Later Roman poets like Statius ran with the 'shared tomb' idea, turning it into a romantic trope. Makes you wonder how much was canon and how much was ancient shippers filling in the gaps!
Piper
Piper
2025-09-12 04:27:26
The question about Achilles and Patroclus' funeral always hits me hard because their bond is one of the most tragic in Greek mythology. In 'The Iliad', Homer describes the elaborate funeral rites for Patroclus—Achilles even cuts off his hair as a sign of mourning, which was a huge deal in ancient Greek culture. The pyre burns for days, and Achilles sacrifices horses, dogs, and even Trojan captives to honor him. But here's the gut-wrenching part: Achilles' own funeral isn't detailed in the original text, though later sources like Quintus Smyrnaeus mention Thetis and the Greeks giving him a hero's send-off. Their ashes were supposedly mingled in a golden urn, which adds this bittersweet layer to their story.

What really gets me is how their funerals reflect their relationship—Patroclus' is public and visceral, full of Achilles' rage and grief, while Achilles' own feels almost like an afterthought in the grand epic. It makes me wonder if Homer was subtly underscoring how Patroclus' death was the true emotional climax for Achilles, not his own.
Piper
Piper
2025-09-13 23:33:30
Fun fact: The funeral games for Patroclus in 'The Iliad' are basically the ancient Greek version of esports—chariot races, boxing, archery! Achilles sponsors it all to honor him, which is both touching and mildly problematic (those Trojan captives didn't sign up for this). Their shared urn? Total fanfic fuel before fanfic existed.
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