When Did Saber Shirou First Meet Saber In The Timeline?

I've been poking around Fate lore for years and if you want the short, heartfelt take: there isn't a widely shown, cinematic full-on kiss between Shirou and Saber in the major anime adaptations that most people watch. The closest, sweetest material lives in the original 'Fate/stay night' visual novel's Fate route and in some official art and drama pieces that portray their tenderness more explicitly. When I first read the Fate route, the romance between them felt very intentional — it ends with them together in a way the other routes don't replicate — and some of the official CGs and epilogues carry a clear romantic tone that fans read as a kiss or close embrace. Studio DEEN's 2006 TV series gives a very intimate, sometimes ambiguous finale where emotions are high but it never stages a blatant cinematic kiss. Ufotable's 'Unlimited Blade Works' and the 'Heaven's Feel' movies focus on different pairings and themes, so they avoid that specific moment. If you want the most direct interaction, the Fate route of the visual novel plus some drama CDs/artbooks are your best bet — they give you the emotional closure fans expect, even if the scene isn't a universally screened, blockbuster-style kiss. Personally I prefer reading that route; the pacing lets the feelings land.

I still get a little giddy seeing duo merchandise of Shirou and Saber—there’s something about those two together that screams classic 'Fate/stay night' energy. If you’re hunting, start with figures: scale figures and prize figures often come as matching releases or complementary sculpts so you can display them side-by-side. Nendoroids and Nendoroid Petites are great if you like cute pair displays, and there are figma pieces that, while usually sold separately, are made to pose together for battle scenes. Beyond figures, look into acrylic stands, keychains, and clear files which commonly feature duo artwork from official illustrators. Con-themed merch and theater-event goods sometimes bundle prints, towels, or postcards showing iconic Shirou/Saber moments. Limited edition box sets or artbook + soundtrack bundles for 'Fate/stay night' routes occasionally include joint illustrations too. I snagged a prize figure and a pair of clear acrylic stands at different times and ended up arranging them on the same shelf—small purchases add up into a nice themed vignette. If you want budget-friendly options, keep an eye on reprints at AmiAmi, Mandarake, and secondhand marketplaces; authentic preowned pieces can be gems without breaking the bank.

I still get a little giddy thinking about those early Shirou-and-Saber moments, so here’s a practical way to find them online. If you want the classic Fate-route vibe, look for the original 'Fate/stay night' adaptation and the newer takes: 'Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works' and the 'Heaven's Feel' movie trilogy each show different sides of their relationship. Most big streaming services rotate these in and out — Crunchyroll, Netflix, Hulu and (region-dependent) Amazon Prime Video often carry one or more of them. If you’re hunting specific scenes, official YouTube channels (like the publisher or studio channels) sometimes post clips — think first meeting, training, and a few emotional highlights. If clips aren’t enough, buy or rent episodes on digital stores like iTunes/Apple TV, Google Play, or Amazon; Blu-rays are still the best quality and usually have subtitle options and extras. One tip: check a fandom episode guide or wiki to pinpoint which episode or movie covers the scene you want, then search that episode on the service you subscribe to. Happy rewatching — it’s always worth it for their chemistry.

I get a thrill whenever someone asks about Shirou-and-Saber alternate universes — there are so many sweet, tragic, and downright weird takes out there. If you want a place to start, search for the tag 'Alternate Universe' or just 'AU' with 'Fate/stay night' on Archive of Our Own and FanFiction.net. Those filters will spit out everything from cozy 'married-life' slices to bleak timelines where the Grail War never ends. Personally I love AUs that flip perspective: stories told from Saber’s point of view as she adjusts to being human, or Shirou waking up in a world where Saber never existed. Look for tags like 'Saber Human', 'Modern AU', 'Time Travel', and 'Genderbent' if you want experimental spins. Crossovers are fun too — search for fics that tag both 'Fate/stay night' and 'Steins;Gate' or 'Re:Zero' if you want universe-hopping chaos. Skim the kudos and bookmarks to find the fics the community actually loved, and don’t be shy about leaving a comment; fan authors thrive on feedback and often write sequels that deepen the AU’s world.

Slicing this down to the core: without Avalon, Saber is still a monstrous Servant, but the dynamics between her and Shirou change a lot. I like to think about it like watching a well-tuned race car lose its safety cage — the engine (Saber’s combat capability, Excalibur, martial skill) is still there, but the pilot (Shirou as master) has fewer safety nets and less stamina to push the car past its limits. Saber on her own can take on a wide range of Servants in straight combat because her stats and swordsmanship are top-tier. Excalibur is an absolute trump card when she can charge it, and her core physicals let her trade blows with Lancers and Riders comfortably. What Avalon does is different: it’s defensive, healing, and can act like a pocket refuge — it keeps Shirou (and sometimes Saber) alive long enough to outlast or retreat from fights they couldn’t win outright. Remove Avalon and you remove that buffer. That means prolonged battles, attrition, and fights of attrition (versus Berserkers or Gilgamesh) become much more dangerous. Then toss Shirou’s contribution into the mix. As a master he normally can’t supply huge amounts of mana; his real usefulness in some routes comes from his projection/reinforcement-like talent and creativity. If he’s the only source of support and Avalon’s gone, he’s forced into hit-and-run tactics, outsmarting opponents, or relying on Saber to end fights fast. So can they win? Yes, in many matchups — especially against Caster-type or mid-tier Servants — but against top-tier Noble Phantasms or pure-power Servants, it becomes a steep uphill battle without Avalon. Personally, I love the dramatic tension of that vulnerability; it turns fights into chess matches rather than skill showcases.

Watching Shirou and Saber turn away from magical shortcuts feels less like a plot convenience and more like a moral heartbeat of 'Fate' to me. When I think about Shirou, I picture someone who built himself out of broken promises and a stubborn need to fix things with his own hands. Projection and reinforcement magecraft are neat tricks, but Shirou’s whole thing is that saving people means being willing to endure the scars yourself. Using a shortcut—letting magic do the living work of compassion—would be like signing off on someone else’s suffering while keeping your hands clean. It betrays the messy, human work that made his ideal matter in the first place. Saber’s refusal has a different flavor but lands in a similar moral neighborhood. She’s a ruler who learned the hard lesson that imposing peace by magical decree can turn into tyranny. A wish from the Grail, a single easy fix, often erases agency and consequence; for her, rulership is about making hard choices and accepting blame. Both characters distrust shortcuts because shortcuts erase the ethical labor that gives their ideals weight. In practical terms, magic in 'Fate' carries cost and corruption—using it to bypass growth typically draws you toward the very outcomes they fear. That’s why I keep replaying those scenes: they remind me that real change usually needs hands-on work, not some shiny spell, and that stubbornness can be noble as well as stubborn.

There’s a warm, stubborn kind of chemistry between Shirou and Saber that hits me every time I rewatch 'Fate/stay night'. On the surface it’s the obvious — master and servant thrown into life-or-death situations — but it’s really built from shared values and tiny, human moments. Shirou’s relentless idealism and Saber’s knightly honor overlap in a way that lets them admire and correct each other. He sees a living embodiment of the heroic ideal he chases; she sees someone clinging to a pure, if naive, sense of justice. That mutual recognition turns into affection. Beyond ideals, a lot of it comes from proximity and vulnerability. They fight side-by-side, tend wounds, share quiet breakfasts, and have a handful of scenes where either one willingly sacrifices comfort for the other. Those repeated small rescues — physical and emotional — create intimacy. Plus, Saber’s restrained nobility and Shirou’s earnest awkwardness create this sweet push-and-pull where sparks aren’t dramatic fireworks but warm, persistent embers. I always find their moments linger more because of that slow burn rather than a single big confession.

There’s this quiet, stubborn part of me that always sides with people who put themselves between danger and someone fragile — and that’s exactly how I read what drives both Saber and Shirou. For Shirou it’s almost painfully personal: the blaze in Fuyuki, waking up to the sight of a ruined home and an adoptive father who lived by the weird, half-broken creed of "save everyone". That trauma folded into a simple, stubborn conviction — if I have the power to protect, I should. He carries it like a scar and a compass, refusing to let ordinary lives be treated as collateral even when the world’s logic says otherwise. Saber’s motivation sits beside that but from a different chair. She is the kind of ruler who took “protect the people” as the very definition of her life’s purpose — her wish to become king in 'Fate/stay night' wasn’t for glory but to shoulder the weight of others. Where Shirou’s is empathy honed by loss, Saber’s is duty and regret, the hard experience of failing her people and trying to fix that in any way she can. When the two of them are together, it’s almost poetic: Shirou’s naive, burning desire to help meets Saber’s disciplined, sacrificial duty, and they bolster each other. That blend — trauma, idealism, and personal responsibility — is what makes them leap into the line of fire for ordinary people. It feels human, messy, and impossibly noble, and I always end up rooting for them because their motivations are painfully, beautifully real.